The fall of Florida State football, can Norvell architect the rise and the causes for FSU's decline



Florida State football is in the midst of a four-game losing streak extending back to 2019. Warchant.com discusses the to role of Jimbo Fisher, FSU’s …



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  • Florida State Football - Warchant TV

    (October 5, 2020 - 11:06 pm)

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    Kenneth McAlpine

    (October 5, 2020 - 11:06 pm)

    Norvell can't even follow mask protocol. How can he build a program?? Laughable.

    Charles Parker

    (October 5, 2020 - 11:06 pm)

    Now Jimbo is driving A&M into the ground.

    Tonetwisters

    (October 5, 2020 - 11:06 pm)

    So far, 14-0, Jacksonville State. The defense is worse than the offense. Very much agree that Fishbo did a VERY poor job of recruiting. After you win a national championship you should have your choice of quarterbacks. SO GLAD he left; but he hosed us over and needs to be sued for not living up to his contract.

    Kevin Clements

    (October 5, 2020 - 11:06 pm)

    We all know the REAL reason you guys want to blame Taggart….(roll eyes)

  • Kevin Clements

    (October 5, 2020 - 11:06 pm)

    Down 14-0 to Jax State LOLOLOLOL

    Billy Miller

    (October 5, 2020 - 11:06 pm)

    Still blaming Jimbo, good grief.

    Mr. Noleblooded

    (October 5, 2020 - 11:06 pm)

    I agree with Ira. 💯🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿

    Mr. Noleblooded

    (October 5, 2020 - 11:06 pm)

    Please let these youngins play coach!!!!! Blend them in with the ones giving 💯 Everytime! It should help recruiting too. In my opinion. Let's move forward…. We can do it one step at a time. Go NOLES!!!

    Steven Clary

    (October 5, 2020 - 11:06 pm)

    Jimbo , stan Wilcox, President Thrasher in no particular order are ultimately responsible for the downfall of the program

  • Chj 229

    (October 5, 2020 - 11:06 pm)

    Hopefully Aslan will shut about Jimbo now he sees why so many fans dislike jimbo Ira and Gene explained best … he basically checked out and screwed the program over and left … especially when he stop worrying about the kids going to class because that unacceptable as a coach whether you are winning or losing

    fisterbailey

    (October 5, 2020 - 11:06 pm)

    Just put in new recruits: be aggressive linebackers are solid, secondary is good, d line needs speed or run stopping. The offense needs new quarterback that the defense will think they could run in a quarterback/running back run play. Travis is good he just can’t run all the time because I know he wants to carry all the time there has to be a QB that’s balanced. The quarterback needs to make quick reads also. The receivers, tight ends and running backs are good. The online is not bad it’s the QB most of the time at least in my opinion. FIX THE QB either Blackmon runs more to keep defense honest, Travis runs less or put another QB

    BadDoomGuy

    (October 5, 2020 - 11:06 pm)

    100% on the FSU administration. Finally, someone speaks the truth. Those are the clowns we should be running out of Tallahassee.

    Big Buss

    (October 5, 2020 - 11:06 pm)

    Yeah this team is the worst….. worst in the Lost decade ! Your right about that Corey!

    Michael Hoffman

    (October 5, 2020 - 11:06 pm)

    How are we going to be Top 5 by 2023-2024 if our best recruits are 3-stars? I don't know if Norvell is capable of recruiting elite talent. Every signee I see has "other offers" from bad to middling programs like FIU, Maryland, Okla St, etc. Why aren't we competing with Alabama, Clemson, and Florida for recruits? Until we do, it will be more of the same.

  • Leslie James

    (October 5, 2020 - 11:06 pm)

    I fully believe that Coach Norvell will turn this around maybe not with this team but he will eventually do it…. GO NOLES

    Leslie James

    (October 5, 2020 - 11:06 pm)

    Jimbo life was all about his family (wife and sons), football ect.. When his marriage broke up, he broke down… everything in Tallahassee reminded him of what it was and what it has become. He had to get away from it….Iam sure there is alot more but , he had a I don't care additude.

    226 Tim

    (October 5, 2020 - 11:06 pm)

    We need to play Corey wren a lot more use him to our advantage against different mismatch situation run formation that would allow the opposing to put a slow linebacker or defensive back on him and allow him to use his athleticism in his advantage let the kid get his feet wet at return or something like come on man use what you have in our advantage start threatening scholarships old school football coaching where you make them fight to survive and play Tate and Chubba this game give them experience cuz Blackman must go or put fire under him when he see your guys hungry and dedicated for his spot but use Corey wren in advantage along with other athletes him and Helton in the slots on both sides would be crazy forces the defense to pick and choose

    Jarrod Moore

    (October 5, 2020 - 11:06 pm)

    "Jimbo had the program better off than Clemson now." RIIIIGGHT. FSU had 2 elite years, Clemson has played in 4 or 5 national championship games. Homers

    D K

    (October 5, 2020 - 11:06 pm)

    Ok. Jimbo. Ok. I say he was negatively influenced by the admin.

    FOOTBALLWITHCOACHERIC

    (October 5, 2020 - 11:06 pm)

    FSU Boosters are CHEAP and now its over for Fsu. i been a fan since 1990 and Unless we hire a TRUE BONAFIDE COACH and Build the football only facility then we can forget about being elite again… Hope Norvell can turn it around but its 3 to 5 year turn around. Go NOLES

    Sean Norris

    (October 5, 2020 - 11:06 pm)

    Dabo Swinney won his title in year 7 or 8

    Sean Norris

    (October 5, 2020 - 11:06 pm)

    I mean Jimbo leaving is still effecting this team. Jimbo recruits are still all over the roster. Off the top of my head… Blackman, Brady Scott, Baveon, Terry, Wilson, Kaindoh, Fagan, Nasi, Durden, Brooks, Robinson, Becker, Rice, Boselli. So basically the nucleus of our time are guys that were recruited then subsequently left by Jimbo. Not all Jimbo fault Taggart could of cosxhed those guys up but to say Jimbo still isnt a part of tbis program is wrong

    jon Ion

    (October 5, 2020 - 11:06 pm)

    WILLIE had a couple good seasons at SOUTH FLORIDA lol but NORVELL was at MEMPHIS lmao Ig MEMPHIS is way bigger than SOUTH FLORIDA lol you guys kills me sometimes

    Corey Hall

    (October 5, 2020 - 11:06 pm)

    Why y’all don’t never talk about the administration not giving Jimbo what he wanted

    Corey Hall

    (October 5, 2020 - 11:06 pm)

    Blame Jimbo smh

    NoVa Noles

    (October 5, 2020 - 11:06 pm)

    Gene blaming Jimbo shows how stupid he is, he deserves this team.

    R

    (October 5, 2020 - 11:06 pm)

    Where is the indoor practice facility or improvements in infrastructure? You are not Clemson because you didn’t help the football team/staff.

    TFJ Boxing

    (October 5, 2020 - 11:06 pm)

    Jimbo’s record without Winston?

    יהושע העברי

    (October 5, 2020 - 11:06 pm)

    When jimbo left, we should've punted on early signing period, found a real coach, then focus on the Feb signing day

    buck4129

    (October 5, 2020 - 11:06 pm)

    How was tagged a bad hire?

    Chris Vickers

    (October 5, 2020 - 11:06 pm)

    Be competitive with Virginia and Wake 🤮 Only lose to Clemson by 3-4 TDs 🤮

    Sean McClelland

    (October 5, 2020 - 11:06 pm)

    i agree with what corey said by 2023 knocking on the door with clemson. before the season i was saying maybe 8-3 but clearly thats not gunna happen, but id be ok with this well cause of so much crap we gotta deal with this year, along with the defensive struggles, OL rebuild, and new coaches id be perfectly fine to be patient and wait till we can get better and in the door consistently winning 8 or more games by 2022 or 2023, then 2024 you maybe make a championship run or 2025. every program deals with a rebuild, Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State, Penn state, Baylor. look at miami, they got a good team now but after 19 years of shit, yea they were good in 2013 till we got em, then in 2017 you were undefeated till pitt and lost and then lost to wisconsin in the orange bowl. but my point is every good elite program in college football has dealt with a rebuild some point in history and we are in one now, ive only been a fan since 04 but im willing to wait.

    Bay Sage

    (October 5, 2020 - 11:06 pm)

    If you watch the fsu Alabama game again Jimbo was happy with his team and it was a high. For the first half but he was checked out as soon as out qb got injured.

    iTza TrAVisT

    (October 5, 2020 - 11:06 pm)

    5yrs…it may suck a bit but thats what ima give him..look at Notre Dame as an example..it took brian kelly several years to make nd relevant again.

    Bobby Bonilla Bobcat

    (October 5, 2020 - 11:06 pm)

    FSU should have built that football only facility. There are no excuses for why we still don't have one! We should have given Jimbo whatever he wanted, we should have worked that relationship out. We let that fall through, and then went out and hired a garbage coach. And here we are, a once proud blue blood juggernaut of a program as the biggest embarrassment in college football. And as far as having us knocking on the door by 2022, I just don't see how. With the way our recruiting is going to be, that's just not possible. You have to have elite good players to do stuff like that. Idk whats going to happen, but it doesn't look good at all. My honest opinion, we're looking at years of mediocrity. I pray I'm wrong.

    Cycle Rider

    (October 5, 2020 - 11:06 pm)

    Stan Wilcox hired Willie and then left for the NCAA. I still think Willie gave him a kickback for the hire. Follow the money.

    Derek Cummings

    (October 5, 2020 - 11:06 pm)

    Ira and Gene are spot on!!!

    Bill L

    (October 5, 2020 - 11:06 pm)

    FSU is the new Nebraska. It's over. Permanently.

    real talk with mr. A ford

    (October 5, 2020 - 11:06 pm)

    If it wasn't going to happen in a year or two why fire or the last coach in a year and 21

    AntBall40

    (October 5, 2020 - 11:06 pm)

    No point in going to the past better try to figure out if Norvell is the guy going forward and right now it’s not looking good but I’m going to let the rest of the season play out I think one thing he should do is start Rodemaker you might as well put him in and see what he’s got

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