IS THIS THE WORST BUILDING MATERIAL EVER?! (How To Identify/Address–MASONITE SIDING/HARDBOARD)



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47 thoughts on “IS THIS THE WORST BUILDING MATERIAL EVER?! (How To Identify/Address–MASONITE SIDING/HARDBOARD)

  • Johnnie Hall

    (October 11, 2020 - 11:22 am)

    BTW, your videos are great!

    Johnnie Hall

    (October 11, 2020 - 11:22 am)

    Absolutely correct . My 12 x 12 was built with the stuff in 1987. I replaced the bottom 2 courses a few years ago with Hardiplank …all is well 🙂

    thomas bowman

    (October 11, 2020 - 11:22 am)

    Hardie will de-laminate also. Vinyl leaks around windows and doors.The only 2 proper sidings are brick and real wood,not smart wood. Too expensive? Cut down on your sq. feet. If your pretentions can stand it you will have a way better home. I am speaking with 50 years residential experience. Never buy a tract home ,they are always crap

    hkgonra

    (October 11, 2020 - 11:22 am)

    How do you feel about the new LP smart side ? It’s an OSB product.

    Jim Dennis

    (October 11, 2020 - 11:22 am)

    Good info, thanks! Reminds me of another nightmare product: polybutylene pipes, used heavily in the Pacific Northwest and Mid-Atlantic in 70’s-90’s as a cheap alternative to copper piping for home main water supply lines. Myself and all of my neighbors have had these fail over the past 10 years with emergency repair and replacement costing as much as $5K. There were a few class action suits/judgements against Shell and DuPont, but they’ve long since expired.

  • Kathryn Tokarska

    (October 11, 2020 - 11:22 am)

    Love your videos, educational and interesting, glad I found you.

    Dienekes

    (October 11, 2020 - 11:22 am)

    I have this shit in 4'x8' sheets on my house. I HATE it. The bottom is degrading horribly. I've had to cut several sections off and replace them, especially around the windows. Shortly, I'm going to cover the entire thing is a rubberized coating to seal the whole thing and then a second coat to make it look like Stucco. $800 and a couple of weekends and I'll have a completely sealed house!

    SerPasha

    (October 11, 2020 - 11:22 am)

    Good video!

    Renee J

    (October 11, 2020 - 11:22 am)

    EVERYTHING you said about this product is true. My dad's house was built in '76 (We love in Southern part of Virginia) & the bottom siding has rotted and literally falling off the house. 😟 I planned to replace them but not sure how much more is rotted. I will definitely do the test.

    David Crust

    (October 11, 2020 - 11:22 am)

    Hardy delams and bloats on edges similarly when exposed to slash or not carefully painted. What about smart siding, boral siding or thermal treated wood siding.

  • Michael Dionne Jr.

    (October 11, 2020 - 11:22 am)

    Are you local to PA? Finding a contractor around here is impossible!

    Dave Graedon

    (October 11, 2020 - 11:22 am)

    Great video. We're in the Triangle and our late 80's house is covered in Masonite siding that is failing in spots. I'm considering getting the whole house resided in the future with cement siding. What's the best practice when re-siding a 30 year old house with cement siding? New house wrap? Rain screen with furring strips? Very curious as to the answer.

    Jeff A. Taylor

    (October 11, 2020 - 11:22 am)

    I have decking pillars wrapped in some sort of pressboard/hardboard. The home is 10 years old and where the pillars get wet I am starting to get some swell. The house is due for paint job come next fall and remediation will not be fun. Or cheap.

    harrylbonner

    (October 11, 2020 - 11:22 am)

    My house was built with it. Considering it is 30 years old, it is in good shape. If you fail to paint it, it will fail. I have some that failed but where the paint and caulking was bad. Sure would I prefer the cement board? Sure, but it came with this.

    Artur Skobodzinski

    (October 11, 2020 - 11:22 am)

    💯Artur’s Fix It All Handyman service Raleigh North Carolina

  • Lynn Miller

    (October 11, 2020 - 11:22 am)

    Agree. Bought a house in coastal GA with this stuff. Bad news, the house had been built in the late 70s, and almost no maintenance by previous owners. The only good thing was we bought the house as a foreclosure, and we were expecting quite an investment to put it back in shape. We were right, but residing was not one we totally expected. Furthermore, damage under the siding was hidden. We ended up nearly rebuilding the place.

    Paivi Project

    (October 11, 2020 - 11:22 am)

    Good to know. Good product for indoor use low moisture areas. Terrible outdoors. Thank god I don't have that problem. Thanks 👍

    Jerry Riggan

    (October 11, 2020 - 11:22 am)

    Don't forget about L P Innerseal siding, worse than Masonite.

    Skipper Pond

    (October 11, 2020 - 11:22 am)

    I've used the Honest Carpenter for consulting advise and it was so well worth it . Thank you for that service. God bless.

    John Jacob JinglehimerSchmidt

    (October 11, 2020 - 11:22 am)

    I get the issue of some customer demanding a cheap solution. I get that a contractor needs to work.

    What I don't get is …. why a contractor wouldn't walk away from a contract when forced to put up/install sub par material.

    David Stoyanoff

    (October 11, 2020 - 11:22 am)

    3 dislikes must be from the manufacturers of this crap

    Wessam fe

    (October 11, 2020 - 11:22 am)

    Are these the same as MR-MDF ? 🤔

    Mike Hickman

    (October 11, 2020 - 11:22 am)

    Our first house was Masonite. Fortunately we owned it for years 2-5 of the house's life and that house had fantastic drainage being on the crest of a small hill. I didn't like the stuff then because it was soft and I thought over time it would not maintain its shape. I've steered clear of it since.

    deepsudeep

    (October 11, 2020 - 11:22 am)

    Can you please elaborate on what you mean by PVC + fiber cement?

    Brady Huneycutt

    (October 11, 2020 - 11:22 am)

    Yep. Worst stuff on the planet. Great review and advice.

    Ron Mack

    (October 11, 2020 - 11:22 am)

    Enjoyed the video Ethan. I agree 100% . It is some sorry material along with the four X eight sheet material that is its counterpart. Y'all take care and be safe. God bless.

    Sir Shawn Paul

    (October 11, 2020 - 11:22 am)

    Another great video ! I try to stay away from this material and those that are similar even when work inside a home. I have never been a huge fan of siding though if it is what a homeowner wants, I simply ask them how long do they want it to last?. I do my best to educate homeowner's to lean towards natural woods. No matter what product is eventually used siding needs to be maintained for longevity.

    MRrwmac

    (October 11, 2020 - 11:22 am)

    Definitely agree with you!! You know I’m near you in Brier Creek and my house was built by MI Homes in the early 90’s. They used Masonite and I’ve had to make sure I painted often and filled any nail holes with Silicone to prevent weeping. As the bottom few planks show rot, I replace with Hardiplank. I had to replace all the siding on the exterior of my fireplace chimney. (Very high for me on ladder)
    Since you’re a contractor in this area, Is there an active open lawsuit we in this area can use to have our siding replaced?

    Stan Webb

    (October 11, 2020 - 11:22 am)

    Stucco is the way to go from the ground to the actual roof…. no wood trim!!!!!!!

    Jake Blanton

    (October 11, 2020 - 11:22 am)

    I used to own a house with it and eventually replaced all of the siding with the Hardi-Plank stuff. I had a few areas where the Masonite was still in perfectly good condition. Of course, those were areas where the 2nd floor completely overhung the first floor so that it NEVER was exposed to direct sunlight or any water (rain or sprinkler systems). That's probably the ONLY way that that junk has a chance of surviving. I would say that it has not much better structural integrity than cardboard

    Murray Schultz

    (October 11, 2020 - 11:22 am)

    Agree for exteriors

    Craig D

    (October 11, 2020 - 11:22 am)

    Is LP smart siding masonite?

    I Brazeau

    (October 11, 2020 - 11:22 am)

    Agreed

    CJ Osman

    (October 11, 2020 - 11:22 am)

    My house in Wake Forest has this crap on it too. It was built in 2010. Luckily there is a nice buffer with the foundation that keeps most of it away from the ground. Going to need to replace it at some point.

    Xander Grae

    (October 11, 2020 - 11:22 am)

    I wouldn't even use that rubbish inside either

    Jake Carter

    (October 11, 2020 - 11:22 am)

    I say this and the old LP siding that has the osb core is the worse.

    Jeff Swietlik

    (October 11, 2020 - 11:22 am)

    How do you feel about LP smartside? The story of LP and the story of masonite sound pretty similar to me.

    Spongeworthy

    (October 11, 2020 - 11:22 am)

    Yup, my wife bought our house before we were married and it's covered with this garbage. I live in Hawaii where it's super humid and I'm always painting and have lots of repairs to make before we sell. Here's the kicker, I'll put it on the market for $800,000 and get multiple offers for a poorly made home. Yes, even the workmanship is poor, but that's another rant for a different video. Everyone here in Hawaii just seems to accept that their homes were built with the wrong materials. So every time a builder finishes and sells a tract of homes they change the name of their business to avoid lawsuits. It's a trend here. They sell this wood simulated siding in 4 x 8 sheets at Home Depot. It's such garbage! As you said, it swells at the nail holes and distorts from the movement to the point where it separates at the joints so I have to pack it with silicone to keep moisture out. Thanks for this video, I was beginning to think I was the only person who sees the problem with this material.

    Brian Chv

    (October 11, 2020 - 11:22 am)

    I hate all press broad products, this exterior item is just the dumbest and non sensical product.

    rod potts

    (October 11, 2020 - 11:22 am)

    I've replaced miles of that stuff. Only thing I ever use it for is sidewalk forms.

    mark smith

    (October 11, 2020 - 11:22 am)

    Another housing boom that brought on bad product was in the early 2000s when high demand for drywall opened the market to imports from China .

    literarye books

    (October 11, 2020 - 11:22 am)

    – yes PVC + fiber cement are the best for siding. 

    You get what you pay for and James Hardie siding is clearly worth it, plus it last for decades and there’s no woodrot.

    pete T.

    (October 11, 2020 - 11:22 am)

    😊👍

    John King

    (October 11, 2020 - 11:22 am)

    we just replaced this stuff on our house in Mississippi – definitely the worst material for siding. Rot was all over.

    Stefan Mueri

    (October 11, 2020 - 11:22 am)

    So true

    nosaj03

    (October 11, 2020 - 11:22 am)

    Ive got masonite on my house now and have been replacing it with Hardie.

    Scott Cooper

    (October 11, 2020 - 11:22 am)

    How about T1-11 siding?  Greetings from Lynchburg , Va.  Love the videos.

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